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Location:

Seattle,WA,

Member Since:

Jul 25, 2005

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Marathon Finish

Short-Term Running Goals:

  • 5/20 - beat the bridge 8k
  • 5/26 - magnuson series memorial day 5k
  • 6/16 - magnuson series seattle solstice 5k 
  • SUMMER - CNW all comers T&F series 
  • 7/4 - magnuson series summer spirit run 5k
  • 8/18 - magnuson series summer fitness day 10k
  • 9/30 - bellingham bay half marathon 
  • 10/13 - escalante canyons marathon
  • 11/25 - seattle half marathon 

Long-Term Running Goals:

qualify for the 2020 olympic marathon trials in ATL (sub-2:45

Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 64.50 Year: 1849.50
TypeA8 Test Lifetime Miles: 170.00
Kinvara Test Lifetime Miles: 292.00
K9 Test Purpleberry Lifetime Miles: 287.00
Haunted Phoenix Lifetime Miles: 269.00
K9 Test Arctic Blueberry Lifetime Miles: 250.70
K9 Test Pinkerton Lifetime Miles: 244.00
Freedom Cut Me Loose Lifetime Miles: 252.00
Bubonic Plague Lifetime Miles: 365.00
Orange Splats Lifetime Miles: 219.00
Race: Layton 5k (3.1 Miles) 00:18:48, Place overall: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.003.008.00

this morning i was out to break 18 in the 5k. i thought it was realistic given last month's 18:24 with multiple stops and wrong turns. i really thought the fitness was there, but i was way off...

i picked up james at 4:50 am. there is no better time to be awake, especially if you are driving. no cars. no stress. quiet. we made it to layton in good time. we drove past the large parking lot with large cones and orange-vested volunteers only once before we realized it was in fact the place we were looking for. we pulled into the lot mud/weed/pothole field and i was immediately reminded of striders half '09 -- aka the mudfest.

we went to pick up our bibs and then went back to my car for a bit to stay warm before james had to warm up (he was running the half). james was having some sort of allergic reaction that caused his lips to start swelling up. he knew he could combat the swelling with a claritin, so we decided to venture off to the store to buy some. we i accidentally drove into a ditch on the way out of the parking lot. i blame the volunteers for not being there to shine their lights on the hazard. okay, i blame myself for not following the road and for trying to drive over the curb in a jeep that i apparently don't know how to operate. we got stuck, but only briefly (we were in a jeep, after all), and then i intelligently kept going forward instead of backing up and finding a different way out of the lot. so yes, the back wheels went through the ditch as well. we heard big, terrible sounds that you should never hear in a car. thumps and bumps. we finally made it to the road and immediately had to pull over because i thought my front tire was flat. it turns out it was fine. good. however, i am now planning that my wheel will fall off on my way in to work on monday morning.

we found claritin at our first stop -- a gas station! perfect. we then made our way back to the start line and ran a big square around the park to warm up. james lined up for the half, which started at 7:00, and i went back to my car to be lazy and stay warm.

just after 7:30, i met up with my dad and sister who were also running the 5k. i jogged a bit more with them and then made a visit to the POPs for the second time. then i continued jogging around the start area to try and stay warm. somewhere along the way i misplaced my gloves, and my hands were freezing. just after 7:45, they told us to line up for start. five-four-three-two one...someone said "go!" and i went out fast. all alone. no one else was there. no one.

i ran alone the entire race. all alone. it was like i was out on a morning run by myself, except it was much more painful than usual. it was an out-and-back  course, and it was honest. there were very slight grades along the way, but for the most part it was flat. no significant uphill or downhill in this one.

the first mile marker was actually at 1.2. i noted my 7:10 split. i was mad. i knew i was putting in more effort than that, so i figured it had to be off. even so, i realized that just by the way i was feeling at this point in the race, i was off my goal of sub-18 and would never recover. i reached the turnaround at 9:19. no hope.

i was discouraged. it was a lame effort wheeze-fest all the way back to the finish line. my spirits were lifted briefly when i saw my dad. he was in second place.  cool. about 1/2 mile later i saw my sister (she was a bandit). they were both running well and looked like they were having fun. i wished i could just relax and have fun as well, but i was frustrated that i could not find a way to generate more energy or motivation to speed up and give more effort. i was waning and didn't care. okay, i did care, but i wasn't doing anything about it.

my watch hit the 17:00 mark and  i still had .3 to go. not happy. about 50 yards from the finish, the first 10k runner sprinted past me and i was startled. another human! i crossed the line in 18:48 (according to my watch). slowest 5k since may of this year. i am not sure what happened, but i obviously am not doing as well as i thought post TOU.

i ran back along the course to find my dad and run with him to the finish. we started chatting, but then i looked back and realized that there was another guy coming up on him, so i told him he should probably push it a bit. he really picked it up here and finished with a strong kick, winning the overall male race. i was very happy for him.

after all the 5k fun, i waited for james to come in from the half. he did well today, especially considering his ailments. at the awards ceremony, they announced my official time as 19:06. i always take my official time over my watch time, but 18 seconds is way too big of a difference to be accurate. i am not convinced that the 19:06 is correct. i talked to the timing guy afterward and he confirmed that the official results clocked me at 19:06. he also mentioned that if you stand too close to the mats before the start, your chip will activate and start timing you. there is no evidence that this did or did not happen, but i will just assume that it did because i cannot imagine how the two times could be off by so much. there is not a lot of human error that can occur with a simple stopwatch. start. stop. then again, maybe i should just go with the 19:06. but that would only add salt to the wound.

needless to say, i am still frustrated with this distance. but i probably wouldn't be frustrated if i would have been realistic in the first place. i do not train properly for shorter distances. i don't put it the time or effort to get faster for the 5k, so i don't know why i expect that i should just magically break 18 minutes when i never do any speed work. i think it's time for me to stop being lazy.


Nike Free II Miles: 8.00
Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 4.00Total Sleep Time: 4.00Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Paul on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:05:14 from 174.27.187.235

meh, don't sweat it. 5Ks are painful and unnecessary. The fact that you're 4 week post-marathon would cause you to be a bit flat anyway.

From RAD on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:09:39 from 67.172.229.125

Oh Allie, I'm sorry this was another disappointing 5K for you. I would chalk it up to being so close from TOU, because the 5K's you did before that both would've been close to or more than under 18 mins had the course been accurate, or safe. Also, not having anyone to race again probably didn't help either.

Despite it all, I think that is a VERY fast 5K time! Plus, a little extra hardware helps a bit too :)

I sure hope your wheel doesn't fall of on the way to work Monday...I'll watch the news for you :)

From Maurine/Miles on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:13:37 from 63.255.172.2

Sorry your race didn't work out the way you wanted. You should have gotten an award for chicking the field. Cool that you and your dad both won your respective races.

I don't want to think about my last 50K where I tried to take my jeep over a ridge of dirt and high centered it and had to run past it twice on the race and then get someone to pull me off. :(

Happy birthday!

From catherine on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:14:05 from 69.169.157.242

You're one of the most non-lazy people I know. Sorry you didn't make your goal. But I'm glad you got to run with your family! And probably you'll get it sometime soon.

From DonGardinero on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:15:24 from 75.162.176.42

Are you kidding me???!!! Father AND daughter win male and female 5k. How awesome is that? You did fantastic. You shoulld have nothing to be disappointed about. Well, I guess if I were as fast as you, then I would probably be disappointed too. I would go with your watch time. No way it could be that far off. Congrats!!!

From Lily on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 18:27:48 from 67.199.181.73

Dude, I see why you weren't looking forward to writing this this. Believe your watch that's all I have to say.

Okay so given that we know you are indeed fast and your fitness is up there, you and I (yes us) need to find the next 5k pronto and attack it together. Also, if you want to do speed work, I do it twice a week. If you want to meet up on a Saturday and do speed work together, that'd be super coolio.

Next 5k, wanna?

From Matt on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 19:29:35 from 98.202.72.183

Congrats to you and your Dad. I am with you on the short stuff training but that all switchs soon. Hill's, Track work, repeats, and sprints. I'll see how much difference it makes and pray to stay injury free. I've been reading hills are the best place to start. It has been four years since I have done hill repeats.

You have to love the short races.

From jun on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 19:34:27 from 97.126.232.37

Just blow it off and know that at least you 'ran your age'. Whether that is 18 or 48 I'm not quite sure, but you were confident on facebook that it was indeed your age. hahahaha.

Congrats to your dad, by the way.

From Scott Ensign on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 20:09:35 from 65.100.210.69

so you didn't break 18 minutes but you have us all laughing really hard with that great report! hope the poor jeep is OK...

don't sweat it, it is impossible to run a great 5K alone with no competition, and they are hit and miss at best anyway. as for the time discrepancy, funny it is good old milliseconds who did the timing. they have a different creative story for every timing error they make (too close to the pad, yeah right). remember the freedom run when they couldn't figure out how to turn the finish pad on..

OK- think about doing the Tremonton turkey trot with me, 10AM November 13th, one dollar, perfectly fast flat accurate course. As my birthday gift to you I will pace you to a 17:30 finish, which will be a PR for both of us. I may even pay the one dollar (yes one dollar) entry fee for you!

From Nancy on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 21:47:50 from 76.27.19.206

I'm sorry you didn't break the 18 min 5K barrier. Congratulations on the win. I think it is great that your dad and sister were able to run the race with you.

From Teena Marie on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 21:52:03 from 174.23.122.157

Allie~

Hope you are feeling better about all of this now that several hours have passed.

I can't believe you typed, "It's time for me to stop being lazy." You are anything but lazy!!! YOU ARE THE CHAMP!!!!!!!

:) :) :)

From Kelli on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 22:22:51 from 71.219.65.246

You, lazy??? You are crazy. Do you think you might have been faster had you had other runners around you pushing you to speed up? I really think that makes a big difference in a race.

Congrats to your dad, that is awesome!

From JD on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 22:30:29 from 166.183.53.153

Did they have bananas?

From JulieC on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 22:48:24 from 168.103.185.42

wow Allie! I am sure your time was accurate. Silly timer boy!! Anyway...no worries a 5K without competition is very difficult and your mind easily slows down thinking your by yourself on a "training" run. I'd take 17:30 pacer guy up on his offer, $1? I think I am in on that one. In fact if I was paid to run I would probably PR not the other way around. : D

From Smooth on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 22:58:52 from 67.41.235.104

Dang! What a crazy morning! VERY COOL that father and daughter won the 5K. You are NOT lazy! You have speed in them legs. That is a very impressive time 3 weeks post TOU plus NO ONE to race with. Scott's offer sounds might good! :)

From runningafterbabies on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 23:08:33 from 67.161.249.168

You need to delete that "lazy" comment! You are definitely NOT lazy. The 5K is an entirely different race from a marathon and it's only been a few weeks since you mastered the later. I know you will hit your goal, and probably sooner than later. I also think competition would help propel you to the finish a lot faster - and getting a timer that is correct. What a joke!

From Merri on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 23:12:41 from 160.7.252.148

Still a great 5k. I would take your watch time over their timer for sure. And I loved the pre-race story w/ the jeep. :)

From Lysa on Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 23:42:39 from 174.52.25.64

Alli! I'm sorry you're disappointed! But I think you are amazing and that your time is awesome. I loved reading this and I LOVED that your dad came in right behind you. How many people can say that? Very Cool. Congratulations Alli. We all think you rock.

From DonGardinero on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 00:27:18 from 75.162.176.42

Allie, just think, you and your dad are the current record holders for the course.

From Jason McK on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 03:45:26 from 64.75.252.115

An 18 minute 5k would be cool, but not nearly as sweet as a 2:51:11 1st place marathon!

From Snoqualmie on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:36:25 from 24.18.192.33

Sorry you are disappointed. (Shows your commitment to your own goals, in light of your win.) But I totally enjoyed reading the report, and getting the winner's-eye-view. Wow - your dad took 2nd! I see where you get your legs!

From Seth on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:54:24 from 67.177.37.10

Good effort today! I think you're right. Your training will determine how you do in any race. No speedwork means it would be hard to be super fast in the 5k, but lots of miles and threshold runs(like most of the running/training you do)means solid marathon times. Note a 2:51 at TOU!

From allie on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 13:25:34 from 174.23.232.22

thanks for all the nice comments. i am feeling much better about the race now than i was yesterday. i'm still not very pleased with the outcome, but as paul said: meh. there will always be another 5k to run. or not run.

about the results - milliseconds used the gun time instead of the chip time in the posted results. the gun time was set at 7:45:00, but the start time didn't occur until 7:45:18. my chip time is 18:48, just like my watch. it makes me wonder why they even bother having chips if they post the gun time anyway. oh well.

thanks again for your thoughtful comments and feedback. i really appreciate it.

From melanieb on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 14:54:54 from 75.169.215.187

Girl pull yourself together! You are an amazing runner! Did you not just WIN TOU? Don't get down. If we accomplished all our goals in a few races we would be bored Right? You will master the 5K.

From Kelli on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 18:52:44 from 71.219.65.246

We have had this chip vs gun time debate before. I agree, why bother with a chip if you are not going to use it?

From nevels on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 19:26:03 from 64.134.180.44

always tough to PR at two vastly different distances back-to-back like that. i understand the frustration, but just look at is as a nice post-TOU diagnostic run. (by your own admission, if and when you ever do any short, fast intervals, you'll kill a 5k)

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 19:30:21 from 68.103.248.145

Sorry it didn't go as planned. :( I know how frustrating that is. But, there is always another race and 18:48 and a win are nothing to sniff at. You'll get it and you are hardly lazy!

From KP on Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 19:51:17 from 173.24.255.248

i'm just laughing about your jeep story! did you use the 4wd?

From Sammie Howard on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 06:04:16 from 78.32.130.9

5ks are painful to say the least now worries you have post marathon trauma non joking.

drop the mileage hit the track you will break 5k 18 mins in 2months ! but is this your goal is the drop in mileage worth the 5k pr its upto you,,, and you risk injury doing fast track work I just think your time was truely great anyways and you beat all the men, maybe it was the course slowing you down :)

From ChrisM on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 07:31:38 from 130.88.123.4

I find 5Ks are hard enough when I do train properly for them, and when I don't, well it is not a fun experience.

I think one of the problems is people rarely race shorter than 5K so it is basically a sprint!

I agree with Sam on the need to drop the miles and do the track work to get faster, though.

Good job on the win though! Wooooo!

From Burt on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 19:16:08 from 206.19.214.144

This is encouragin. The key is to teach your legs that 5:10 pace is not a 1 mile sprint, but rather a 5k cruisng pace. From now on the goal should be to maximize the mileage in the 5:10-5:30 pace zone in the later stages of the run while keeping total mileage at 70 or higher, and without overtraining. This is going to be a juggling act with a busy life, so be careful. Start by planning your sleep and try to figure out a way to cheat and sneak in naps and/or early bed time. Once you are sleeping, you can push the training.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 20:57:22 from 68.103.248.145

LOL Burt I just about fell out of my chair. Still giggling!

From Nan on Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 00:32:37 from 24.8.144.22

Right on Burt. Right on. Where did you gain all that wisdom?

Allie-Awesome report. Very funny. Glad to hear that you didn't have to admit to more "human error" above and beyond the jeep incident. What a nice Daddy/Daughter date that turned out to be! I'd say its a great effort just four weeks post marathon PR and all alone in the cold. Clap clap clap clap. :)

From PRE on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 14:21:27 from 99.50.214.225

Hi Allie,

Hope you see this message. You wrote this back on the 9th...and here it is the 30th. Congratulations to you and your father. Regarding your watch time stating you finished 18 seconds faster then net time for the 5K. I believe the watch. I believe you finished running 3.11 miles in the time your watch states. But you did not get to the finish line. You had to run for 18 more seconds. For me, I believe I finished running 26.2 miles during the Chicago Marathon and my Garmin reported I did that in 4:00:23. But...while the Garmin believed the marathon was over, I still had about 1/3 mile left to go and my Chicago time was 4:04:47. So what is up with this??? I remember reading from Riverton Paul's blog page that he ran the tangents in a particular race very well. And there is the issue I believe...When we run 5Ks and marathons...at times, we are actually running a littler longer than the stated distance...because we are not taking the most direct route. This is what I think is happening. You are a much more experienced runner and racer than I am, so you would know better than I if this is likely what is happening. I would be curious about what your thoughts are on that issue. Sometimes my Garmin is dead on. And at other times, there are differences in the time.

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